December 21, 2009
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A Conundrum
So I’m not sure if any of you noticed but I haven’t done a lot of blogging on politics for awhile. Frankly, I’ve been pretty turned off by the whole political world lately. I’ve been doing a lot of eye rolling and shoulder shrugging lately. Mostly over the whole health care debate. At this point, I feel like Congress is just pushing through a crap bill just to say that they did something on health care.
I think there is something really messed up when Congress has to push a vote off until 1am on a day before the weekend. I don’t think the fact that the vote was so late means that Congress was taking it’s time or really thinking about what they were voting on. I think there’s also a big problem when polls are coming out saying that most people (you know voters, as in people who voted to put those people into office) are now against what Congress is doing. Call me delusional but I thought the people in Congress were supposed to vote the way that their constituents want them to vote (although that really hasn’t happened for ages).
It’s going to be interesting to see what a mess Congress makes out of this thing… sigh.
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“I feel like Congress is just pushing through a crap bill just to say that they did something on health care”….I think our first clue is the 1am vote!
It honestly makes me sick to hear all the crap that’s going into the bill just to get votes. They want to call it compromise, but I call it buying votes. It’s disgusting. I hope there is a public uproar over this! I do think we need health care reform, but not like this.
I agree that is it really frustrating. I would much rather them put something good together and pass it later than just pass crap. I think the general population would agree with me on that…
I was never an Obama supporter. Mostly because I expected exactly what is happening. I hope that something happens to prove me wrong. (I am aware that this far exceeds Obama, but I use ‘Obama’ as a general term for all of the people with similar beliefs who were voted in for the current term at the same time.)
I don’t blog about politics either because quite honestly it all scares the crap out of me.
I totally agree. This bill is nonsense and will hopefully be overturned.
If there’s a mess then all of the blame goes on the so called Conservatives – they did exactly the same thing to Lyndon Johnson and the result of that is what we’re dealing with right now – viz, ripping up the Hippocratic oath and making healing just another lucrative business
Look at it this way, a group of people settle in this valley, there’s water, fuel, seed, they decide to have a meeting to decide on the best division of labor so naturally one of them says well I think we ought to build a rocket ship and send all of this into outer space there might be needing aliens out there (Iraq, Afghanistan, whatever) after all we ourselves are unworthy; or, well I don’t think we ought to keep anything here for ourselves we best send this all back to the Capitalists they know better what to do with it than we do that is US as a government of and for ourselves
Health care is for we the people – on why we organized as such “to provide for the general welfare” of the nation – people trying to survive and enjoy something pleasant and agreeable our government is the chief and primary means to facilitate that. But the Conservatives have convinced you that no !! the private sector must rule and governs your existence not an assembly of you. This is the Will of God !!
The only blame I can lay on normal people (Liberals, New Dealers &c) is that they allowed themselves to be brain washed into sacrificing and serving private persons that refuse to do anything for US but then again look at who they have to reply on to remain in office.
You may like Hong Kong. The Hong Kong Government can do most of the things she likes because the legislature is made up mostly of pro-establishment legislators. There is no universal suffrage in electing the the legislators. But most Hong Kong people don’t like this system. They are striving for universal suffrage in electing all the legislators.
I’ve been jaded about politics for over two decades so it’s my usual mode to predict the worst outcome. That way I’m usually right.
Something that has become very frustrating is the increased use/threat of fillibuster in the Senate. This isn’t in the constitution and is being used much more now than it was a decade, two decades, three decades ago, etc. When a party has a majority in the Senate they should be able to enact legislation. If the constituents don’t like the way their Senators voted (most do, that’s why incumbents remain incumbents) then they can vote them out the next election. Most of the problem with this healthcare debacle is that a plan (any plan!) is being so cut up, compromised and watered down in an attempt to be everything for everyone that it ends up not really being anything, period. That’s not legislating.
The debate highlights just how bad and unfortunately corrupt US politics have become.
One one side you have republicans who just refuse to participate in the discussion in any meaningful way, except to try and kill the bill from the dems. When republicans had control of the house, senate, presidency, health care reform was no where to be seen. Now they oppose the dems every step of the way without offering a decent alternative of their own.For them to support the status quo where 2/3 of all bankruptcies are due to medical bills is appalling. They may as well wear corporate logos of those they really represent.
That leaves EVERY dem a must vote, so the final dem hold outs wield far too much power to force concessions.
This is the result of the financial power and control of corporate lobbyists spending 100′s of millions of dollars to have the people we elected do their will over ours, and each election it gets worse.
@WakeUpLaughing - Yeah, all of the little presents going into the bill are just ridiculous. This is going to be a really stupid, useless thing when it finally gets passed.
@der_lila_Stern - I voted for Obama, mostly because I thought the alternative is worst (sad that I had to vote due the alternative but that’s a rant for another day). I’ve been really disappointed with the whole year in politics.
@stixandstonz2009 - Scared may be a good word at this point!
@TheModernBunny - I really hope so.
@choyshinglin - I think we should all be able to vote but in our case, it seems that incumbants have a much easier time getting voted back into Congress than any challenger.
@dirtbubble - At this point, my fascination with politics has mostly become that of a sociological nature. People do weird things and it’s interesting to me to watch them do these strange things that make no sense.
@christao408 - I fully agree. This bill is so watered down that I’m not sure what it even will really do anymore.
@SoullFire - I wonder if there is the potential for it to ever get any better. When are we the people going to get so fed up that we do something and whatever that something is actually is able to change something?